Nice post about the West from an Arab perspective

The Insecurity of the Western Male and the Patriarchy

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9345

"What you are about to read is a rare look into how the West and it's culture is perceived by an Arab, who has lived and travelled all over the world and is a keen observer of society and people.

Meeting Westerners, one of the things I noticed was how insecure and de-masculinized they seemed to me; compared to myself and the male-dominated, testosterone-driven culture of my land.

Western men seemed fragile somehow, unsure of themselves and their worth, the vast majority of them. Some put on fake personas, some overcompensated ... none quite had the quiet confidence that people from our culture possess.On the internet, most Americans seemed to act like little bitches, little girls brought up in a Feminist perversion of nature.

I now understand why; after observing the complex dynamics of U.S. and Western society.

It was only after coming to the U.S. and studying here that all the pieces came together - a fascinating look at a dysfunctional man-hating civilization that is the polar opposite of my own culture, and will eventually lead to the collapse of Western civilization.

Where I come from, men walk proud and rule the streets and testosterone runs in the air; and strong patriarchal foundations of family and the father as ruler of the household. Men harass and aggressively follow women - it is unapologetically a man's world. Men are imbued with confidence and have high self esteem, women are (funnily enough) horny and demure; and feminine and understand the natural order of things.

In the U.S., Feminism has so corrupted the society to it's core, damaged the very concept of family and the family unit and the father's role, that society as a whole is like some bizarre alien planet - where men are bland, lack personality, are anti-social, gossipy, soul-less. Men are weak and insecure deep inside. People are disconnected and paranoid, anti-social and self-abosorbed.

It's a society where men have become de-masculinized. Bizarre and cliquish; I can sense the odd social-cultural constructs permeating the country - it is a deeply segregated and fake culture. Men cannot feel confident and assured here like in strong patriarchies; women have all the power and American men seem clueless as to how bizarre the male-female dynamic has become.

In the workplace, Americans are Automatons, like soul-less hamsters on a wheel. Fake conversations, no intellectualism, no interest in other countries, peoples, or history.

Also, terrible social and people skills - at least in California. Most people communicate via twitter and Facebook, even though most of the people on their Facebook live in the same city and a phone call away.

People are vacuous, shallow, superficial, suggestible. Men raised here are fake, insecure, lack personality, they seem to have "issues." Women are confused and messed up ..

You let your women take control, and your society will unravel- it will make your men weak, and destroy your society to it's core. The patriarchy is a male conceived and enforced institution that was imposed on females, because men, and only men understand well the long-term impacts of civilization and harnessing male energies into productive family units and a stable society .... civilization itself is a result of patriarchy.

To sum if up, it seems to be that the whole country is phitzoprhenic , like a Jekyll and Hyde monstrosity. There is no community, no camaredie, no soul, men and women are willing servants to their corporate masters and slaves to materialism and superficiality; and incredibly conformist, reserved, and politically correct to the point of totalitinarism."

I totally agree with this post.  And while I think Islamic culture is marginally better than liberal Western culture, I suggest that anyone considering Islam as an alternative first visit an Islamic country.  I have been to Egypt and Jordan, and they are totally dysfunctional.  Islam has its own problems.

I also agree entirely with this post.

This part in particular:
"In the workplace, Americans are Automatons, like soul-less hamsters on a wheel."

What we have is an assumption - 8hrs of sleep, 8hrs of life, 8hrs of work = 24hrs per day.

This doesn't work for me as I need at least 10hrs of sleep and 10hrs of life and that only leaves 4hrs of work which doesn't produce enough money to cover the other two requirements. So I have lack of sleep and a life devoted to maintaining the ability to work. I have always assumed that I would need to preserve my life as best I can until I retire at 65 and only then could I live. That's probably a weakness in my case, but it begs the question of where the culture is coming from. Even being unemployed as I am at the moment - just looking for work to the extent demanded mostly wipes out any living time and I'm servicing the jobcentre, maintaining it's requirement.

Is the culture a product of working life? The only relationships I have have had with women have always been industrial, and governed by the employers rules and regulations. The need to work for a living and the cost of living being inflated by the government and the state has always seemed to me to be a form of slavery. Take for example the Amish community. They don't seem to have these issues or these problems. They don't work for other people (mostly) they work for themselves. They have lives - I don't, and that annoys me. I like to think of the Amish as the human race - not sure what we are supposed to be?